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Sarlo's Guru Rating Service
Welcome to Sarlo's Guru Rating Service, a compilation of mostly non-mainstream religious leaders whose mission/job description is basically to help us lift ourselves out of the multiple ruts of misery we find ourselves in as we live our lives. Their methods, quality and authenticity vary tremendously, as do the degree to which they encourage worship of their exalted selves and even their conceptions of our misery. What they have in common (mostly) is a kind of
free-standingness, at least a semi-independence from traditional established
(organised) religious structures and hierarchies, although of course there is nothing to stop them from setting up their own structures and
hierarchies.
Their willingness to "take us on" as cases or disciples cannot exactly be described as taking responsibility for us and our spiritual progress, but something like that. Beyond this admittedly inadequate phrase, it is difficult to say in our limited language what
their end of the master-disciple deal is. Let them speak for themselves in their websites.
To find any particular guru figure, click on the appropriate letter page link
below, or hit the search engine. Alphabetical listings are according to the name they are most familiarly known by, could be first, last or middle name; gurus with multiple aliases may require a few
tries. Search may be best for them, if you can spell at least one of their
names. If this is your first visit, you may want to read the introductory material below.
And if you are tempted to take it too seriously, please visit the About page.
Yes folks, we've been
"on the air" for ten years now, from a humble one-page beginning to
our current stupendous compendiumshipness.
"How tragic! How weird! Rating the non-dual teachers – how tragically American."
A gloriously
mixed
review from Sri Ganesha Tea and
Book Stall:
"Okay, so it's biased, square, skewed, uninformed, rigged, ignorant, opinionated, and just plain wrong. It obviously does not reflect the opinions of the Tea Stall. That said, it's actually not all bad or innacurate
[sic] or unintelligent either. But it was inevitable: Sarlo's Guru Rating Service."
Use these letter links to
browse the alphabetical listings
A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z
Or look for someone directly at Search
For other site navigation, a Site Map link
is provided at the bottom of every page
There are now over 1500
teachers/gurus/masters listed. Many more will be coming! Thanks for new info go to my
fellow collectors, and to many visitors
and explorers of The Way. Other major lists
and spiritual resources at
Outside Links.
There is a dated list
of new people added, rating changes, new quotes and articles and other info in the last few months on a separate page for
those who like to keep up with details (the last three or four months worth
anyway). Any news or changes of a more systemic
nature will be
announced in this box, just below in black.
(Nothing has happened in that regard recently, so it can be blank for a while.)
The Guru Ratings email forum
for discussion of issues
that arise out of these guru-opinions and the Search in general continues and
has grown to over 1600 subscribers (hmmm, about as
many as i have gurus listed). It has
been at times very busy, even out of control, only occasionally quiet, and
sometimes quite nasty, though some efforts are made to keep that somewhat in
check. It ebbs and flows and can run anywhere from 20-200 posts/day.
A list of who among my listees
has appeared or been discussed there can be found at Archives.
It is hosted by Yahoo Groups, free and open to
all, and you can subscribe at GuruRatings. Messages are archived, and
include some worthy insights and observations, and now that the Yahoo
archive search function has been hugely improved, these messages are relatively
accessible. Also included is a lot of rubbish
but at least it is frequently entertaining, depending on your standards of
course. Some self-satire on
its very busyrubbishness can be found here
(free peek!).
System Changes, starting with most
recent:
[I'll let ya know when something happens :-))]
The Ratings & How They Work
All information in quotes in the mini-descriptions is taken from the Master's words or the literature of adherents. My characterizations contain some judgments and prejudices, usually (if negative) triggered by
perceived fatuities in the literature or legend. Founders of major established religions are not included because people mostly know who they are, where to find them and what they already think of them. Exceptions
to that exclusion have been made for Jesus and, depending on your definition of founders, Bodhidharma and Dalai Lama.
My information for evaluating these guys comes mostly from their
websites, though visitor feedback and scuttlebutt / legend have modified website
impressions on many occasions. I have received complaints that websites are made
by fallible followers and cannot represent a master adequately. This is so, but
since even established religions suffer from the inability to present themselves
well – being similarly composed of fallibles – the playing field is level
enough to be a reasonable starting place. Thereafter my judgments can be subject
to the usual feedback processes.
So let the rating begin!
(It is assumed the visitor does not have to ask, "What is a guru?"
If that is the case, a visit to Wikipedia
might be in order: everything you might want to know about the broadbrush
general notions of guru, very informative. I extend those ideas to cover an even
wider ground, though i stick to the "spiritual" side.)
So first off, what is it, what qualities exactly, am i rating? It is not the
quality of their realization. One with the cosmos is one with the cosmos. Those
who posit different planes or levels of enlightenment will not find traction here. Whether
they are enlightened or not is of interest but not how enlightened. The
other main consideration is how useful might they be to the hypothetical
"average seeker." This breaks down into how available or accessible
the master might be, how flexible in terms of methods or approaches, and how able
to take on large numbers. In the case of masters no longer living, they may be
considered accessible via their (enlightened) disciples.
There are other general criteria i have used for this assessment, but they can in no way be considered absolute. They are more like red flags, which can alert us to the
possibility of something awry. For instance, independent of any moral considerations, we can see the vast potential for abuse of power in a ual relationship between master and disciple, and certainly the stench of hypocrisy will be there if ual morality is being preached. My red flags are, in no particular order, big money, exploitive , hypocrisy, morality, absence of freedom, the master's death,
hype, fanaticism, excessive devotion, delusions of grandeur, tradition and isolation from the rest of the world. Absence of these flags may only indicate safety, no particularly wonderful quality, rather than greatness.
I have made a beginning to expounding further on these
red flags,
for those deeply interested. As of 2005, there are enlarged explanations
of how i apply five of them. More coming irregularly, with occasional updates
and fine tunings.
In addition to the red flags mentioned above, there are some
"positive" characteristics of enlightenment which may be considered. I
do not personally use them, since many of them are not mutually compatible, and
their applicability in any given situation is suspect, but i have gathered a
collection at Criteria for the delectation,
amusement and perhaps even education of visitors.
And of course one person's positives may be another's negatives. I am not a completely non-partisan
observer (duh!!) The wholly subjective characterizations in yellow will not be everybody's experience, nor will the ratings, a ludicrous attempt to evaluate when there is clearly no universal quantitative standard. Still if movie, music and restaurant critics can do it, why not i? You can call it yellow
journalism. Further information on where i am coming from – personal investments, history and tendencies that might affect the contents, either rating- or opinion-wise – can be found below.
And see also Disclaimer.
The yellower the better?: For a naysayer's view of non-mainstream spiritual groups, you can find a professional collection of dirt on many of these guys from Rick Ross. Also worthwhile is Steve
Hassan. They are far more objective than some anti-cult activists, such as TranceNet, and
have lots of material, though of course their basic disposition is still
anti-guru. It is worth noting that
by far the most common thread in the dirt reported by disaffected seekers is hypocrisy about celibacy and materialism.
Time and time again the lesson is: Morality=Hypocrisy.
The ratings are:
= the greats, helping many
= limited, some handicaps, or maybe not yet full stature
= very limited, narrow approach or ideology, or still developing
= suspect but on balance positive
=
suspect
= bogus, may have some value, who knows
= worse than bogus, no redeeming value
Unrated
= too new, old or retiring, not enough info, or a
"teacher" type
To view a list of all the rated gurus organized
by rating,
Click here
For a fuller explanation of the rating characterizations, Click here
If your favourite figure is not listed, send in the info and i'll be happy to include, although i will keep it short. I am more comfortable with English web sites but have started to include other languages, although not for rating purposes. (Feedback) And if your favourite figure
is here, but underrated or categorized wrongly, let me know and i'll have another look. No flamers please. Most ratings, it will be perceived, are in the low range. This in many cases reflects an unfamiliarity with the figure in question (along with an uninformative web site), the willingness to give them a little slack but unwillingness to rate them too high until they establish themselves, especially considering the harm that a phony can do. Okay? The soundest rule in commercial transactions also applies here:
Caveat emptor.
In some cases, i will have more to say about them than will fit comfortably in the mini-description format, so there will be a link to a separate page, simply MORE,
or occasionally a QUOTE, FEEDBACK,
REPORT or TALES,
an informed visitor opinion presented as an alternative to my limited viewpoint.
It may be worth noting also that though my standards are fairly tough, i
consider anyone with a rating of
or more to be worth
checking out, and many of those at
may be too.
If you like your judgments to be at least based on personal experience, there is a great feature of Jerry Katz' otherwise non-judgmental guru info site,
Satsang Reports, which consists of first-hand reports of personal encounters with some of the enlightened ones in the biz. Its reports are mainly on the advaita crowd, descended from Papaji and
Nisargadatta. This site has also started featuring such reports. And
check out the excellent online magazine, Realization.org,
now unfortunately no longer updated but with a wide variety of articles archived on many aspects of the spiritual path, including
quite a few of these guys.
The Categories
I have taken the additional liberty of categorizing these guys into four different types, according to their basic methods and flavour and the type of seeker to whom they might appeal. The traditional literature describes two basic approaches, the heart, or
devotional / surrender to the master approach, and understanding, or advaita /
non-dualism / meditation / wisdom etc. There is no contradiction in these approaches as both lead to dissolution of the ego, or sense of separation from the whole, but they have practical application to different types of seeker.
A third category can be considered to exist in a continuum with the first two. This is the so-called middle path, willing to play with the paradoxes that arise and use methods that
might seem outrageous to purists of the first two categories. The fourth category i will use is one
basically outside the devotion-advaita spectrum, a kind of catchall of diff'rent folks, which i call fringe: esoterics and wankers, whose focus is basically outside, on objects or systems, rather than inside, on the self or
the heart connection with the master.
For more on this categorization, see Expo.
The categories:  (Devotion)  (Advaita)  (Middle Path)  (Fringe)
The Unrated Teachers
This great group is for all those who are not standing out from the crowd, relatively speaking, especially as the crowd is growing so fast. For various reasons – they are just new to the biz and haven't had the time to stake out a market niche, or they are too unassuming, preferring to avoid the fast lane, or there is not enough info on their website to form an opinion, or
just generally too above-it-all – it is premature or pointless to rate them.
If there is a basic common thread, it might be lack of Western market share or desire thereof.
Few claim to be enlightened, with the exception of those with neo-advaita leanings,
the Indians and the venerable ancients, who may make no claims but their fans do. Some are happy to labour away from the crowd or in the shadows of their masters. Most of the living ones could be thought of as teachers. Since they are
making no big personal claims and are offering spiritual training – a product, say, as opposed to a far-off goal – their lack of pretension allows them to escape judgment. Many will still have the presence and/or charisma associated with
the big guys but they do not flash it around on their (usually modest) web
pages, again excepting the Indians.
This lot will be divided for now into fifteen groups: Zen; Tibetan; other Buddhists;
Sufis; Yogis; Gnostic/Scientific types; Nondualists; Indian,
usually Hindu, with some Sikhs and others; Perennials, long-time-gone worthies
without a strong lineage to the present; Earth Medicine, aboriginals, pagans and the like;
Quasi-Christian, including ACIM types; Channels/New Age; Humour; Literature; Misc, all the
rest.
Note that the Tibetan group has now spun off a new sub-category (DT – see the
Tibetan page for a link) of dead
ones, to avoid overcrowding. This may happen in other groups as well.
And a few inappropriately once-rated have been moved to unrated categories.
Their old write-ups are preserved for now at Das Boot.
 (Zen)
 (Tibetan)
 (Sufis)
 (Buddhists)
 (Misc)
 (Yoga)
 (Indian)  (Nondual)  (Perennials)
 (Earth
Medicine)
 (Humour)
 (Quasi-Christian)  (Gnostic/Science)  (Literature)
 (Channels/New
Age)
Where I'm Coming From
First off, and most important i suppose, my religious history. I was raised as rather an agnostic Canadian, with but one perfunctory effort on the part of my parents, also agnostic, to make me have a taste of the local church. Boring! But okay, that out of the way. My early forays into "alternative" paths consisted of trips to India, a "back-to-the-land" phase, lots of drugs though no addictive ones (save alcohol and
cigarettes, now finished), dabbles with Paramahansa Yogananda and a few others and finally (seeing the light?) a long-term (since 1978) relationship with a master, Osho.
My time with Osho has led me to downgrade the value of belief systems and morality, as time and time again morality turns out to be hypocritical and belief systems
so insubstantial. If something is not one's experience it seems unintelligent to make anything more than a working hypothesis out of it. I can't similarly argue with the power of devotion, or surrender of the separate self to an appropriate master, but it does not appeal to me personally, nor (i suspect) to many modern types, and
since the possibility of abuse is so strong, i feel it's good to be cautious.
Further glimpses of me and my psychology can be found in my own rating
– yes, i rate myself – or at page bottom there are
links to other writings of mine. And
– once more with feeling – see also Disclaimer.
Loose Ends
More Expoundables: Further discussions of ratings, categories, the path, etc and observations on these guys, general and specific.
Outside Links: Other collections of links to these
guys and their ilk, some specialized by type or geography, and other spiritual
web resources.
Dirt: Special "Anti-"sites devoted to particular masters or groups.
A prime source of information in HARD COPY about these guys and many more, at least the Western contingent, is The Book of Enlightened Masters: Western Teachers in Eastern Traditions, by Andrew Rawlinson, published by Open Court, Chicago and LaSalle, Illinois. ISBN 0-8126-9310-8. Jerry Katz (Non-Duality Salon) quotes it extensively to give exposure to those unfortunates without web sites.
MORE HARD COPY: Another good source reference on these guys and why they go wrong is Halfway up the Mountain – The Error of Premature Claims to Enlightenment, by Mariana Caplan, Hohm Press, ISBN 0-934252-91-2. This is an excellent compendium of the ways of the ego liberally sprinkled with quotes from many respected
teachers. An excerpt from another of her books, also relevant, is here. In a similar vein but more negative,
focusing
exclusively on the misuse of power by gurus, is The Guru Papers: Masks of Authoritarian Power, by Joel Kramer and Diane Alstad, Frog Press, Berkeley.
Happy Hunting, and may all your Mays become Junes!
Navigation – Site Map
New counter (CQ Counter) as of July 17, 2001:
The link below is an index to Sarlo's other
writings and wrandom wrants.
And there's more of his and others' writings in Osho Pulse,
the archived magazine of the Vancouver sannyas community
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